No Tripods @ KTNV Vegas

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KTNV News 13 Las Vegas, NV
Effective Immediately

All daily stories will NOT be shot on a tripod.
All video must be handheld.
Station Policy ------ NO tripod use!

Whatcha all think??
What do the KTNVers think??
It used to be a high quality photog shop!
Does anyone care??
 
Originally posted by <bigshoulders>:
KTNV News 13 Las Vegas, NV
Effective Immediately

All daily stories will NOT be shot on a tripod.
All video must be handheld.
Station Policy ------ NO tripod use!

Whatcha all think??
What do the KTNVers think??
It used to be a high quality photog shop!
Does anyone care??
 
Originally posted by <Lein to Tail>:
quote: Originally posted by <bigshoulders>:
KTNV News 13 Las Vegas, NV
Effective Immediately

All daily stories will NOT be shot on a tripod.
All video must be handheld.
Station Policy ------ NO tripod use!

Whatcha all think??
What do the KTNVers think??

sorry about the last posting. I don't know what the hell i'm doing.
Anyway, I don't think it will last. Quality always wins out in the long run. Try to look at this as an opportunity to try something new. Zoom with your feet. Get closer. Remember somebody has to edit your stuff too. so don't get too crazy, but go with it for now. Think of it as practicing a new method that you can add to your bag of tricks. It'll make you a better shooter in the end. Good luck.
It used to be a high quality photog shop!
Does anyone care??
 
Are you serious? Who would make such a dumb policy... They might be trying to get a certain look but all they will end up with is sloppy video... that is INSANE. Makes our management look halfway intelligent.
 
that has to be one of the dumbest policies I have ever heard. what about simple things like press conferences?
what is managements excuse for this?
that wont last
 
Originally posted by <bigshoulders>:
KTNV News 13 Las Vegas, NV
Effective Immediately

All daily stories will NOT be shot on a tripod.
All video must be handheld.
Station Policy ------ NO tripod use!
Is this true? The rumor hasn't reached the other newsrooms in town yet. I'll believe it when I hear it.

Any KTNV-ers out there to confirm? Be nice to hear it from a registered poster instead of some anonymous person.
 
I used to work in LV and this would not surprise me, but like SandRat I want to hear from someone at 13 before I react too stongly.
 
I'm reserving judgement on this one, too... but I will add this to the mix: They've just changed from 'News 13 inside Las Vegas' to '13 ACTION NEWS'.

As a footnote, their two best shooters have flown the coop in the last month.

If the rumor turns out to be true... ouch. The chief is a great guy who sticks up for his staff... but who knows. I will say this: if true, it sure as hell wasn't his idea.
 
Originally posted by gator:
I find that hard to believe. The chief there would never let that happen.
(If this is really true...)

Does the chief there have the authority to challenge a decision from a GM who most likely won't hear the complaint clearly with his head shoved up his ass?

I worked in a market where the Sinclair outfit in town had the exact same mandate. The mandate came from the station's management, who saw it as a way to inject energy into their news stories and newscasts. Management probably got it from a consultant. I could see that happening in other stations, especially in a station that is trying to revamp its image along the lines of its consultant's latest full-color bowel movement.
 
They're liable for the back problems this will create...they should KNOW this. Are you a union shop? :D
 
Cool, an opportunity to pi$$ people off! Consider it a professional challenge to bring back the steadiest stuff you can. SteadyBag, BagPod, hood of your truck, top of your reporter's head. Whatever!! Imagine, being able to SEE what's happening at the police stand-off from blocks away. PS, will the studio cameras be losing their pedestals??? :confused: :D
 
Well, although no phojos have confirmed it, reliable sources say it's true. Not a blanket "no tripod" rule, but they want them to lose the sticks whenever feasible.
 
Could liability be an issue here? Perhaps a lawsuit triggered this reax? Maybe the casinos didn't want people tripping?

Your results will look either unprofessional or, at best, like MTV.
 
Sounds like a greast idea to me. Keep it edgy! Now you fat photogs with weak arms will have to do a little work holding up the camera for a while instead of having that tripod to lean up against while you shoot in your sleep.
 
Originally posted by <NYshooter>:
Maybe the casinos didn't want people tripping?
Riiiiiight.

Yes, the scores of 'drunken tourist vs. lobby tripod' slip-and-falls led to this.

The real Vegas odds?

Consultants -220
G.M. -110
C.P. +330
Casinos +700
 
I'm not about to i.d. myself. So you can take this for what it's worth. The rumor is true. But let's not exaggerate... They don't expect us to shoot a standoff a mile away off the shoulder. But yes, the station is completely falling apart. "Management" is under the impression that shakey, unproffesional video will draw viewers apparently.

Everybody needs to jump this ship while they can still get a reasonable tape together. The hay day has long past. It's kind of sad, really.
 
Originally posted by <anon>:
"Management" is under the impression that shakey, unproffesional video will draw viewers apparently.
While I think it's a stupid idea to mandate a style for local news, I think I understand the concept. It isn't unprofessional video they're after. They just want it to move, the way a Darrel Barton piece moves. They want you to run up and show the audience the closeup instead of cutting to a static shot of the closeup. They want you to catch reactions as they're happening by swinging the camera around when the subject responds. They want you to make the viewer feel like he's really there instead of watching individual little pictures change inside a frame to piece together what's happening.

They may even want it a little more "edgy," with the swish pans and snap zooms thrown in, but I doubt that's really the ultimate goal. They just want energy.

The problem is that many photogs just aren't suited to that style. Some physically can't do it, either because of a lack of skill or stamina. Others just don't think that way. Still others can shoot that style but play hell editing it, especially in a 1:10 format, and end up with something really sloppy to keep from missing slot. Then there are stories that just don't lend themselves to this kind of work.

The result will be some good stuff from a couple of the people who really get this kind of thing, some crazy horrible stuff from one or two who take it to a bizarre dutch angled extreme, and the rest will be mediocre, shaky, jumpy and unpleasant to watch. Management will look at it, have no idea why it's not working overall, and just think that their photogs suck, when in reality they just aren't getting proper direction.

Okay. For any of you folks who work there, if you're really interested in making this experiment work, ask your news director to please bring an example of the kind of work he would like to see. Then emulate that. The problem with other stations I've seen do this is that the only instruction the photogs are given is "no tripods!" without any guidance toward a particular style. Your news director is probably going by what a consultant says and has no idea of a style in mind.

If your ND won't or can't define a style, get together with your chief and define one as a group, watching examples of work that fits the style you think will work with your station. There are examples of this kind of work on the NPPA tapes occasionally, in between the kung fu edited machine gun nat pieces. Or, grab some of Darryl Barton's work off the tube and rip that. If all else fails, try some of the reality shows that use a lot of handheld camerawork. Pick a style and figure out how to make it work in short package form.

Of course, if you want it to fail outright in the hope that management will reconsider, ignore that advice.
 
Originally posted by Shaky & Blue:
Originally posted by <anon>:
[qb]"Management" is under the impression that shakey, unproffesional video will draw viewers apparently.
While I think it's a stupid idea to mandate a style for local news, I think I understand the concept. It isn't unprofessional video they're after. They just want it to move, the way a Darrel Barton piece moves. ]
Barton's enthusiasm for the NPPA is great, his photography on the other hand blows.
Everyone knows when to get off the tripod and capture the moment, but the constatnt reminder that there is a monkey behind the lens is bad bad bad for tv news.
 
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